Everything went relatively smooth, scheduling an interview with Stephen Christian vocalist of Anberlin before their show in Detroit. Scheduled to meet before the band took stage, and with three opening acts, I knew time wasn’t too crucial, but its always better to arrive early than late. Everything went smooth…. except for getting there. I, along with a crew of seven, and a copy of ever so perfect directions courtesy of Mapquest.com embarked on an adventure we never expected. Driven every direction but toward the venue, it seemed Map quest was quite literally laughing in our faces. Fed up, low on gas, and frustrated we stopped to ask directions from a locale. Re-directed, with ambition filling our ever so optimistic hearts, we took off again, in the direction given, only to end up back on the highway that took us into the city, now heading further downtown.
Long story short, we eventually made it to the venue, just in time to catch the opening act Jonezetta. Upon arriving, I phoned Tour Manager, Seth, letting him know of my arrival. Meeting outside the venue, he led me, across the street, to the band’s tour bus. He opened the door and we stepped inside. Slowly walking in, I found myself immersed in the band’s atmosphere; a “chilled” mood filled the bus, as they relaxed before the show. Quickly excusing myself to the bathroom, and finishing rather quickly, I emerged and told them I was ready whenever they were. On que, Steven showed me down a long hall, toward the back of the bus, passing up their sleeping quarters, a smaller room with couches, and finally to the back room, a little den of sorts lined with two small couches. Inside the room was filled with a multitude of games, I glanced around noticing the: TV, Xbox 360, PS2, Guitar Hero, and a multitude of games and DVDs. Steven, soft spoken, trendy, and calm, seemed more than ready to sit down and talk about whatever was on my mind, and ready to discuss Anberlin’s current status, the release of Cities, the indie-music industry, and the band’s future.
Camaren: First thanks for taking the time and sit down and talk, and congratulations on “Cities” which has been praised by many critics praised as Anberlin’s you’re most defining records to date Which brings me to my first question. Many in the industry have noticed a difference in the tone of “Cities” compared to your former releases, overall the band seems to have matured, from the days of “Never Taken Friendship Personal” and “Blueprints”. What CD seems very personal… what’s the story behind “Cities”?
Steven: Cities was developed out of like (pauses). We knew that we wanted to go into it, making it almost an epic record, making it big, like a Queen or a David Bowley, bigger than ourselves; we wanted the album to be bigger than the band. In doing that a lot of things changed. We went with London Bridge Studio, which is where Pearl Jam recorded “Ten”, a lot of those Seattle bands. You know, everything from Nirvana to Alice in Chains recorded all their stuff there. The guy who mixed the record also did Deaf Leopards “Hysteria” and Andrew W. K’s “I Get Wet”. And then, we went with a different engineer… we just set up a whole team around it to make this album as big as possible. But, as far as the lyrics and direction, I felt like this was defiantly going to be a soul searching record, you know one that, you know, one that I will kinda look back in time, and be shocked and appalled at how much I gave away of myself, but it’s like, here’s what I have, and here’s what I’ve learned through the years. So definitely a mature record, you know. Nate’s finally 19 now, everyone’s getting older, so it just felt like it was time, it was time to put this record out, and everything just fell into place.
Camaren: Now you guys worked with Aaron Sprinkle for a third time, after watching the DVD it seemed you guys worked well together. How did you come about working with him a third time, is he just the “Tooth and Nail guy” or?
Steven: Yeah actually we didn’t want to go with Aaron. At first we were very hesitant, because we didn’t want to make “Never Take Friendship Personal” part two. You know, we didn’t want to make a repeat, and this to be part three. And so, we started looking at other producers, but than we realized, you know (pauses) we talked to Aaron, and he was like ‘Listen guys I’ve grown as a producer and you’ve grown as a band, and I think if we put all these different extra-curricular things together’, you know getting things like boys choir, getting a full harmonic orchestra, and stuff like that ‘You know we can make the best Anberlin record ever, no matter who you go with as the producer, we can make the best one’. And that really convinced us, you know, he sees that we don’t wanna do just another Anberlin record that this needs to be THE Anberlin record. And I think we achieved that, or Aaron achieved that anyway.
Camaren: Now did you guys go into the studio with all 13 tracks, or was there some writing that took place in the studio?
Steven: We came in with about 20 written guitar parts, but not all the vocals. You know, there’s a lot of things I like being under pressure for. When they started pre-production, I asked the guys if I could get an apartment by myself in Seattle, and that’s what I did, I just walked around town, you know, and just sat there and wrote. Went over all the songs in my head, must have written each one 17 times, just scathing everything out and starting over.
Camaren: Growing up in Florida, yet moving to Seattle with Tooth and Nail to record, how did the transition go?
Steven: Actually, like I said on DVD, we live in Seattle more than we do in Florida. You know, because we tour ten and a half months out of the year, so the time that we’re not there we’ll be at a home, or you know doing fly out dates, or we’re in Seattle recording, so we’ve lived more in Seattle than we have in Florida these last couple years.
Camaren: Wow, so now in between shows, what is the band up? Are you chilling on the bus? Checking out the cities… or?
Steven: Christian actually loves video games, this is all Christian’s set up (points around the room), so he has the guitars, the Playstation , and the Xbox, the laptop back here, this is all his little region. This is Christian’s turf. Joey and Deon that’s their turf up front (points down to front of the bus), they love movies, any and every movie you can think of. Joey has tons of DVD’s, he must have a collection of 7 to 8000 literally, and him and Deon just love it. And you know me and Nate we leave, we love wandering around the cities. You know we’ll call a friend or one of the crew guys and wander around. We’ll normally end up at a coffee shop for sure, sometime around the day. That pretty much consists of our day we all just kinda split up, I mean, we’re all great friends, but we all have different hobbies on the side.
Camaren: Any cool stories so far, from this tour?
Steven: The coolest story is the fact that this is our first headline tour of all time. We’ve never headlined before. So that puts a lot of pressure on the band, because if no one shows up to the show its your fault. So like, what’s been cool is, tonight will make 8 out of 9 sell outs. Only one show didn’t sell out so far. So that’s the big story of the tour so far, everyone’s kinda in shocked and awe, it’s just like “wow, I can’ believe this story’s going so well”.
Camaren: Each release, has a unique style / tone, however I did notice that “Friendship” ended with a 7 minute track “Dance Dance Christa Paffgen, and the same goes for “Cities” with an epic 9 minute closer, shadowed in metaphors, what’s the story behind *Fin?”
Steven: Well… Wow… (pauses) It’s a personal story just about…. Well there’s four different stories in there: my life, and than the names are actual names of people: William, Mary, Tommy ,Billy, and Timmy. People I may never see again, but just had a huge impact (pauses) I think, like I was saying, “Cities” being man vs. self, everyone’s going fight in some way with themselves throughout life, to add it to what they’ve become. Whether it’s trying to learn through something, what career you want to choose, who you want to be with, what religion you do or don’t want to support, or if you’re not even religious. You know, you’ve got to fight: depression, loneliness, heartache. You know, everyone’s going to go through these same exact emotions. I don’t care if you’re here, India, Africa, China, there are some core basic things that you’re going to have to fight with yourself about. And this one was kinda my struggle with God. I mean, I have a lot of questions. You know (pauses) I mean I don’t know everything about God, I mean no one does, no one ever will. But it was kinda just, my fight out with God, like here’s something’s I don’t understand, that I need your help with.
Camaren: I hate the whole “Christian Band” controversy, and regardless of intentional or not, Tooth and Nail has always been indirectly regarded as the “Christian Label”. Anberlin has done exceptionally well in the mainstream market, and has never been a band that only caters to their “youth-group” fans, could you share some of your thoughts?
Steven: We don’t cater to any audience. You know, I don’t care what religion, color, creed, sexual orientation, you are. It just doesn’t matter…. music is music, now if you derive a message from my music, or from the albums, or if you want to talk to be about faith and stuff like that, that’s awesome, that’s something I’m totally willing to do. And that’s so inspiring when people get something out of your lyrics or out of your song. But we don’t cater to any one audience, you know, we don’t go to youth groups, but we still play a couple Christian shows. You know, like we play Cornerstone Festival, and you know, it’s like we’re flying in to Cornerstone from Warped Tour. You know what I’m saying? We just don’t care, our audiences are so diverse. And it’s kinda like the music, like if you like Godspeed, you may not like Inevitable, you know if Godspeed is your song than you know and it’s so fast, and than you have Inevitable and it’s slow and it’s got strings, and the fact it’s a soothing, quiet song, almost alt-rock, for radio, kinda top 40 radio. But that’s just like our crowds… (Christian’s cell goes off in background, reaches around and turns if off). Much like our crowds and our music, everything is diverse, I think that doesn’t only add to the records, but what adds to our audience, as they’re completely diverse.
Camaren: Any music videos in the planning for “Cities”? Are you allowed to reveal that yet?
Steven: Yeah, our first single is “Godspeed”, and we haven’t signed on a director just yet, but “Godspeed” is going to be the video and we’re going to do it, right after we get done here, in this U.S. tour, and they we go to Canada, and right before we go to Japan we are going to shoot the video.
Camaren: Also, what are you guys currently listening to on the bus? Any current favorite artists?
Steven: This is crazy because, randomly, I don’t listen to indie rock bands, which is crazy because I’m in the scene, but I just haven’t, I just don’t. But lately, I’ve really been liking Brand New. Like before you got here we were listening to them. Random right? But I think it’s like a great single. (Phone goes off again, hits it) But, for the most part, I’m more into bands like Him, Blonde Redhead, MEW, stuff like that… Explosions in the Sky, that CD just came out, Arcade Fire, the new Shins is awesome. Stuff like that I like to listen to.
Camaren: Any favorite songs to play live?
Steven: Anything new. We’ve been playing so many of the old songs, so many times, that it makes it so much more fun. I really like “Dismantle Repair” and “Godspeed” (phone goes off again picks up). Holy cow…
Camaren: Popular guy…
Steven: (laughing) Yeah somebody just keeps…. (picks up) “Hey, I’m in the back lounge Christian just left his phone and you keep calling.” (hangs up). So yeah, Dismantle Repair and Godspeed, that’s the songs everyone has been singing along with. Obviously the crowd sings along with the old songs, but like these two are the ones that are my favorite because of the fans. Although for me personally, I really like *Fin, you know we close out with it every night, and sometimes it just feels so big, like the album and all it’s really cool..
Camaren: Cool, thanks for taking the time before the show, really appreciate it.
Steven: Yeah man for sure no problem.